0:23 - Getting started making moonshine whiskey / operating during World War II

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson discusses how he started out in the moonshine whiskey business in the early 1940's. He talks about how much whiskey he typically sold per batch and how scarcity of supplies during World War II made him need to purchase sugar through the black market.

Keywords: 1943;black market sugar;drinking;early 1940's;gallons;learning;making moonshine;moonshine;rationing;sales;selling whiskey;soldiers;stills;teenagers;underage drinking;World War II

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey industry--Kentucky.;Whiskey.

4:18 - Selling moonshine whiskey / financial reasons for making moonshine

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson states that he generally sold his whiskey wholesale and gives his reasons why. He also talks about how financial hardship often compelled him to make whiskey, since it was a fairly quick way to make money.

Keywords: basements;bootleggers;bootlegging;consumers;economic value;finances;hard work;income;malt corn;military service;money;seasons;selling moonshine whiskey;summers;warmth;wholesalers;winters

Subjects: Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

7:41 - Assembling a still / needed materials

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson describes what is needed to assemble a still, including the materials and their cost.

Keywords: alcohol;barrels;choosing a location;cold water;copper;copper cap;cost;cover outfit;Crawford (Tenn.);equipment;hardware stores;making whiskey;moonshine;P.G. Crooks Hardware;parts;steam;stills;thump kegs;water;wooden barrels;work;worm (whiskey making)

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey industry--Kentucky.;Whiskey.

13:39 - Seasons for distilling / glass bottles vs. pop bottles

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson continues to talk about how the seasons affect the quality of the whiskey that is made. He also talks about using plastic and glass bottles to store the whiskey and shares why he prefers plastic.

Keywords: autumn;bottles;gallons;glass;jugs;runs;seasons;selling whiskey;spring;stills

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey industry--Kentucky.

17:03 - Vehicles for transporting moonshine whiskey / transporting whiskey on foot

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson discusses some of the ways that people have modified their vehicles to be able to secretly transport moonshine. He states that most of his clients did not use such elaborate methods of hiding it. He also talks about the hard labor involved in making whiskey, especially in hauling it to the vehicle.

Keywords: barrels;bootleggers;boxes;carrying whiskey;cars;containers;dealers;gallons;log trucks;plastic containers;rum runners;stills;vehicles;weight

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Wayne County (Ky.).

21:48 - Distribution of Stinson's whiskey / whiskey quality

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson talks about his reputation for making good whiskey. He mentions that he has sold it to people in many other states and several other countries. He discusses Tennessee whiskey, which he characterizes as being of lower quality, and weighs in on the danger of getting lead poisoning from badly made whiskey.

Keywords: Africa;California;distribution of whiskey;Germany;high quality whiskey;hippies;Indiana;lead poisoning;metal;Michigan;moonshine;Ohio;selling whiskey;Tennessee;Wisconsin

Subjects: Wayne County (Ky.).;Whiskey.

27:08 - The remote location of Stinson's still

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson describes the remote location of his still, which he brought everything to and from on foot.

Keywords: "Carved into Rock House Holler";"Long Cliff" (??);carrying things on foot;Dry Holler;hills;hollers;hollows;mountains;roads;stills;vehicles;woods

Subjects: Distilleries.;Wayne County (Ky.).

30:16 - Transporting moonshine whiskey

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson talks about how he transported his whiskey from the still in burlap bags. He stresses the amount of work that it took to do so.

Keywords: boxes;burlap sacks;cardboard;carrying whiskey;gallons;glass jars;moonshine

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Wayne County (Ky.).;Whiskey.

31:52 - R.H. Stockton and Wheeler Stinson

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Segment Synopsis: Russell Stockton, who is one of the interviewers, discusses his own connection to Stinson as a lawyer and as someone who has worked on Kentucky's Alcohol Beverage Control Board.

Keywords: Alcohol Beverage Control Board;Korean War;law practice;moonshine;mountain people;poverty;proof;R.H. Stockton;reputation;revenuers;sheriff's office;stills

Subjects: Distilleries--Law and legislation.;Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Kentucky. Dept. of Alcoholic Beverage Control.;Liquor laws.

37:24 - A friendly adversarial relationship

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Segment Synopsis: Stockton and Stinson talk about the adversarial relationship that they had and why neither of them blamed each other for their roles. They talk about an incident in which Stockton thought that he had nearly caught Stinson. Stinson says that that must have been someone else.

Keywords: being caught;breaking the law;illegally-made alcohol;laws;moonshine;poverty;qualms;revenuers;supplementing income;trustworthiness;truthfulness

Subjects: Distilleries--Law and legislation.;Law enforcement.;Liquor laws.

42:51 - Reasons for rarely being caught / surveillance and catching moonshiners

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson talks about some of the precautions that he took not to be caught by the revenuers. Stockton shares his experience in catching moonshiners.

Keywords: animals;being caught;deer;footprints;investigations;luck;memory;Montecello (Ky.);moonshine;personnel;sheriff's department;stills;surveillance;trackers;tracking;trails;whiskey

Subjects: Distilling, illicit.;Law enforcement.

48:07 - Getting older / moving the still

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson and Stockton both discuss being near retirement and what they plan to do after that time. Stinson also talks about moving his still to avoid detection.

Keywords: getting caught;luck;old age;retirement;stills

Subjects: Distilleries.;Law enforcement.

50:40 - Finding old stills / finding running water for a still

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Segment Synopsis: Stockton tells how he would often find old, abandoned stills when he was trying to find the moonshiners. Stinson shares the way that he found enough running water to be able to operate a still successfully.

Keywords: "flake stand";cold water;cooling;digging;evading the law;finding water;malt corn;marshes;moving stills;old still sites;springs;stills;streams;water;water weeds;worm (whiskey making)

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Law enforcement.;Whiskey.

53:55 - Flake stands / greenery and burning different woods

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson clarifies what a flake stand is and how it is used in distilling whiskey. He also talks about the natural vegetation found in the mountains. He compares different woods by their ability to generate heat without giving off too much smoke.

Keywords: "flake stand";chestnut trees;concealment;dogwood;furnaces;greenery;heat;hollers;hollows;ivy;maple;moonshine;mountains;plants;ridges;smoke;vegetation;water;wood;worm (whiskey making)

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, Illicit.;Whiskey.

58:02 - The scent of smoke

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Segment Synopsis: Stockton discusses why the smell of smoke was often an indicator of an illegal still hidden in the mountains. Stinson also weighs in, recounting several instances in which he was able to smell smoke from miles away.

Keywords: "Carved in the Rock House Holler" (??);burning wood;cousins;deer hunting;Dry Holler;firewood;moonshine;nephews;odor;smoke;weather;wind;wind direction

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

61:58 - Making whiskey in the winter

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson discusses some of the difficulties of making whiskey in the winter, due to the necessity of keeping it warm. He shares how he managed to do so.

Keywords: alcohol;barrels;basements;caves;fences;heat;insulation;leaves;logs;malt;stills;warmth;winter

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

64:56 - The importance of an airtight still / still explosions

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson stresses the importance of making sure that the still was air tight, since the alcohol would escape as steam otherwise. He also recounts several times that his still exploded.

Keywords: air-tightness;alcohol;backings (whiskey making);barrels;batches of whiskey;danger;explosions;fire;gallons;proof;runs;steam;thump keg;weather

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

68:38 - Making a seal for the still with flour and water / sugar substitutes during wartime

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson shares how he used a mixture of flour and water to make his still airtight. He also talks about the difficulty of getting sugar early on in World War II and describes the substitutes that were used to make moonshine.

Keywords: alcohol;all purpose flour;barrels;black market;cap;cement;flour;heat;humor;molasses;moonshine;paste;ration stamps;rationing;seals;self rising flour;sorghum;stamps;sugar;syrup;thump keg;water;World War II;worm (whiskey making)

Subjects: Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey. Wayne County (Ky.)

72:41 - A humorous anecdote about hogs and moonshine

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson shares a story about some hogs getting into the barrels of moonshine that he and his friend had made.

Keywords: alcohol;barrels;brothers;Dry Holler;hogs;money;revenuers;stills;waking up

Subjects: Distilleries.;Whiskey.

76:53 - Signals to warn other moonshiners

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson describes some of the signals that were used to warn the moonshiners that the revenuers were coming. He tells a story about trying to warn some of his friends, though it was too late for them to be able to escape.

Keywords: anvils;automatic weapons;code of silence;communities;cutting wood;dinner bells;guns;gunshots;hollers;hollows;Joe Burney (??);moonshiners;nephews;nieces;school;sheriffs;shotguns;signals;sounds;stills;trapping;traps;valleys;warnings

Subjects: Distilling, illicit.;Law enforcement.

83:35 - The art and hazards of making moonshine

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Segment Synopsis: Stockton discusses the difficulty of making moonshine whiskey and some of the dangers associated with it. Stinson also shares some ways of knowing if the still is going to explode.

Keywords: amateur distilling;art forms;cap;danger;difficulty;explosions;fire;making moonshine;mash;moonshine;stills;sulfur water;thump keg;worm (whiskey making)

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

87:24 - Whiskey ingredients / steps to make whiskey

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson describes in detail the amounts of different ingredients that he used to make whiskey, as well as the process of making it.

Keywords: "cooking it in";"sweet mash";alcohol making;backings (whiskey making);barrels;beer;corn;corn meal;distilling;grain alcohol;ingredients;mash;metal drums;moonshine;souring;stills;stirring stick;sugar;sweetness;thump keg;water

Subjects: Distilleries.;Whiskey industry--Kentucky.;Whiskey.

92:46 - Making brandy and wine / preparing the malt corn

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson mentions that he has also made brandy and wine, in addition to moonshine whiskey. He describes the process of making malt corn.

Keywords: "root sprouts";brandy;cold water;feed corn;fermentation;fruit;grain;malt corn;molasses;shelling corn;sprouts;starch;stills;sugar;warm water;wine

Subjects: Distilleries.

97:27 - Vapors from malt corn

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson continues to talk about the vapor generated by malt corn and how it is condensed into alcohol. He also tells a story about making whiskey with his father, illustrating some of the hazards involved in making it.

Keywords: alcohol;burns;cans;fathers;fires;gas;malt corn;steam;vapors;worm (whiskey making)

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

102:33 - Proofing whiskey through the "beading" method

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson and Stockton describe how one can estimate an alcohol's proof through the "beading" method.

Keywords: bead;bubbles;evaporation;fruit jars;gallons;mash;mixing;proof;water

Subjects: Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

106:14 - An excursion with a friend

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson talks about a friend who sometimes visited him to buy some moonshine. He talks about the last time that he came and an excursion that they took together.

Keywords: Bertram;driving;friends;George Blevins (??);Indianapolis (Ind.);Monticello (Ky.);moonshine;pine trees;recipes;reunions;thermometers

Subjects: Distilleries.;Whiskey.

109:41 - The dying art of making moonshine / catching a couple of moonshiners

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Segment Synopsis: Stinson talks about how moonshine making has changed and why he thinks that it is a dying art. Stockton tells a story about catching a couple of moonshiners in the act. The interview is concluded.

Keywords: "rock house";canning;chestnut poles;escapes;family;honesty;moonshine;moonshiners;police officers;revenuers;running;stills;stories;sugar;the art of making whiskey;women;young people

Subjects: Distilleries.;Distilling, illicit.;Whiskey.

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